Florence Portch

(born 1894 London, Nth Camberwell)

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Maternal grandmother: Alice Smith (born 1847 Hants, Chilbolton died 1912 Greenwich, London) View NotesHide notes

Father William Smith according to marriage record (FMP England marriages transcript 1538-1973). Found baptism 14th September 1845, Chilbolton, father William mother Harriet (FMP from FamilySearch Intl)

married 28 Nov 1869 Paddington

Maternal grandfather: Joseph Elborn (born 1849 Redbourn, Hertfordshire) View NotesHide notes

Parents George and Sarah according to his baptism record

Paternal grandmother: Mary Ann Portch ?? (born 1848 Canada )

married 1868

Paternal grandfather: Robert Seguin Portch (born 2.4.1837 London, Camberwell died 1893 St Olave, Surrey) View NotesHide notes

Detailed baptism record shows Robert was born at No. 32 Addington Place, Camberwell and that his mother Elizabeth’s father was Richard Watler of Stanstead in Kent, a farmer. Also that Robert’s father Robert was a tin plate worker.

Joined the army on 5th October 1857 and served 20+ years, including 6+ in Canada where presumably he met his future wife

On electoral register in 1893 at 582 St James Road, St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey.

Mother: Harriett Emma Elborn (born 1873 Kent, Chatham)

married 1893 Southwark

Father George Seguin Portch (born 13 Dec 1869 Ireland, Dublin died 1953 St Albans) View NotesHide notes

Baptism record shows George’s parents to be Robert and Mary Anne Portch. George was born in Dublin at the Aldboro Barracks in Dublin. The baptism image attached was an evidence of age dated 16th June 1875, but taken from the original parish register.

Brother: George Joseph Seguin Portch (born 1894 London, Nth Camberwell died 21.5.1916 ) View NotesHide notes

Killed in action in World War I, France Pas de Calais Cemetery/Memorial : Pas de Calais France ARRAS MEMORIAL, Bay 10 Was in 8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles), Service Number 370619 Memorial website shows additional info: Son of George Seguin Portch and Harriet Emma Portch, of "Fairlawn", 1, Shakespeare Rd., Harpenden, Herts.

Sister: Harriett Maud Seguin Portch (born 15.11.1895 Rotherhithe died 1974 Hatfield, Hertfordshire) 2 children

Husband: Charles Henry George Oliver (born 1895 Camberwell died 12.6.1957 ) View NotesHide notes

Joined the army aged 20 years and 6 months in December 1915. He was 6 ft 1 ins with 34 in chest, 133 lb, and required spectacles. His next of kin was a Josie or Jessie Gale, his foster mother of 58 Peacock Street, Newington Butts.

Son: Laurence Seguin Oliver (born 1924 St Albans, Hertfordshire died 16.11.2016 ) View NotesHide notes

Laurie shared his middle name with his grandfather on his mother’s side, George Seguin Portch. A search on FMP reveals only one marriage between a Seguin and a Portch and that was 15th April 1798 between Martha Seguin and Robert Portch in London — perhaps an ancestor

Son: Roland G S Oliver (born 1933 St Albans )

1837 baptism,

Robert Seguin Portch

1878 discharge

papers for Robert Seguin Portch shows he served ...

1878 discharge

papers (2) for Robert Seguin Portch shows he ser...

Military papers

for Charles Oliver in 1915

Military papers

showing Charles Oliver’s next of kin to be Jo...

Attestation

records showing Charles Oliver’s height, etc.

Letter written

by Charles to ensure letters were addressed prop...

Probate for

Charles Oliver in 1957

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Charles to military in 1916, to ensure his foster m...

Census records (9):

1841 Addington Place, St Giles Camberwell, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Portch	Robert			M	45	1796	Green Grocer		4274
Portch	Elizabeth			F	30	1811		Surrey	4270
Portch	Martha			F	9	1832			4271
Portch	Robert			M	4	1837		Surrey	4265
Portch	Elizabeth			F	1	1840		Surrey	4275
Portch	David			M	2	1839		Surrey	4276
Adams	James			M	25	1816		Surrey
Adams	Mary			F	20	1821

1851 7 Pound Row, St Giles Camberwell, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Portch	Elizabeth	Head	Widow	F	43	1808	Laundress	Stanstead, Kent	4270
Portch	Martha H	Daughter	Unmarried	F	19	1832	General Servant	Camberwell, Surrey	4271
Portch	Robert S	Son		M	14	1837	Farrier (App)	Camberwell, Surrey	4265
Portch	Joseph	Son		M	5	1846	Scholar	Camberwell, Surrey	4272
Portch	Mary	Daughter		F	2	1849		Camberwell, Surrey	4273
Watler	Rebecca	Niece		F	12	1839	Scholar	Stanstead, Kent

1881 17 Nursery Street, Tottenham, Middlesex
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Elborn	Joseph	Head	Married	M	31	1850	Butcher	Redbourn, Hertfordshire	4260
Elborn	Alice	Wife	Married	F	33	1848		Chilbolton, Hampshire	4256
Elborn	Alice S	Daughter	Single	F	9	1872	Scholar	Hammersmith, Middlesex	4259
Elborn	Harriett E	Daughter	Single	F	8	1873	Scholar	Chatham, Kent	4253
Elborn	Florence	Daughter	Single	F	6	1875	Scholar	Paddington, Middlesex	4261
Elborn	Ellie	Daughter	Single	F	3	1878		Old Ford, Middlesex	4257
Elborn	Edith	Daughter	Single	F	1	1880		Old Ford, Middlesex	4262
Elborn	Lillie	Daughter	Single	F	0	1881		Tottenham, Middlesex	4263

1891 9 Lucey Road, Bermondsey, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Elborn	Joseph	Head	Married	M	41	1850	Butcher	Redbourn, Hertfordshire	4260
Elborn	Alice	Wife	Married	F	44	1847		Chilbolton, Hampshire	4256
Elborn	Alice	Daughter		F	19	1872	Mantel Maker	Hammersmith, Middlesex	4259
Elborn	Harriet	Daughter		F	18	1873	Collar Maker	Chatham, Kent	4253
Elborn	Florence	Daughter		F	16	1875	Book Folder	London, Paddington	4261
Elborn	Nellie	Daughter		F	13	1878	Scholar	London, Old Ford	4257
Elborn	Edith	Daughter		F	11	1880	Scholar	London, Old Ford	4262
Elborn	Lily	Daughter		F	10	1881	Scholar	London, Tottenham	4263
Elborn	Samuel	Son		M	8	1883	Scholar	London, New Cross	4546
Elborn	Eliza	Daughter		F	6	1885	Scholar	London, New Cross	4258
Elborn	Amos	Nephew		M	18	1873	Butcher	Herts, Redbourn

1891 St James Road, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Portch	Robert S	Head	Married	M	54	1837	Telegraph Messenger	London, Camberwell	4265
Portch	Mary Ann	Wife	Married	F	43	1848		Canada	4266
Portch	George S	Son	Single	M	21	1870	Letter Sorter	Ireland	4252
Portch	Mary Ann	Daughter	Single	F	18	1873	Collar Stitcher	Ireland	4267
Portch	Alice E	Daughter		F	16	1875		Ireland	4268
Portch	Gertrude M	Daughter		F	8	1883	Scholar	London, Bermondsey	4269

1901 87, Faradday Street, Newington, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Gale	James	Head		M	45	1856	Iron Bridge Worker	Plaistow, Essex
Gale	Jessie	Wife		F	43	1858		Caversham, Berkshire
Oliver	Charles	Adopted		M	5	1896		Peckham, Surrey	4250

1911 34 Ommaney Road S E, St Paul Deptford, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Portch	George	Head	Married	M	41	1870	Letter Sorter	Ireland, Dublin (Resident)	4252
Portch	Harriett	Wife	Married	F	38	1873		Kent, Chatham	4253
Portch	George	Son	Single	M	16	1895	Telegraph Messenger	London, Nth Camberwell	4254
Portch	Florence	Daughter	Single	F	17	1894	Clerk	London, Nth Camberwell	4255
Portch	Harriett	Daughter	Single	F	15	1896	Clerk	London, Rotherhithe	4251
Elborn	Alice	Mother	Widow	F	64	1847		Hants, Chilbolton	4256
Elborn	Alice	Sister	Single	F	39	1872	Mantle Maker Ladies	London, Hammersmith	4259
Elborn	Ellie	Sister	Single	F	33	1878	Book Folder	London, Old Ford	4257
Elborn	Eliza	Sister	Single	F	26	1885	Book Keeper	London, New Cross	4258
Loveland	Leonard	Visitor	Single	M	4	1907		London, Bermondsey

1911 58 Peacock Street, St Mary Newington, London
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Gale	James	Head	Married	M	56	1855	Boiler Maker	Essex, Canning Town
Gale	Jessie	Wife	Married	F	54	1857		Oxford, Caversham
Oliver	Charles Henry	Foster son		M	15	1896	Telegraph Messenger GPO	Surrey, Peckham	4250

1939 181 Sandridge Road, St Albans, Hertfordshire
S name	F name	Relation	Cond	Sex	Age	Born	Occupation	Born	ID
Oliver	Charles H G		Married	M	44	1895	Sorter General Post Office	29th June 1895	4250
Oliver	Harriet M S		Married	F	44	1895		15th Nov 1895	4251
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